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Forex 386/486 CACHE

A dual 386DX / 486 compatible motherboard supporting up to 256KB write-back cache and a late 386-era single chip motherboard. I'd not heard of Forex previously, but it seems to be a solid design with a wide-range of CPU/FPU options. Not sure it would be up to late-486 performance, but should be strong compared to 386 designs.

I got this board from a Russian-language auction site (https://streetmarket.ru/) in late February 2021 for a very reasonable amount of money. One of the reasons being that it had obvious damage…

I took these images after the board had arrived:

Observations:

  • Battery has been removed due to obvious leakage, but it seems contained. Will need cleaning up and some small repairs immediately surrounding the area.
  • Damage: Cracked 74-series logic IC between two of the ISA slots; will need desoldering and replacing
  • Damage: One of the ISA slots has at least one missing pin; will need desoldering and replacing
  • Damage: One retaining 'ear' snapped off a SIMM socket
  • Battery: Keyboard port will need desoldering and replacing
  • Battery: Keyboard controller will need desoldering, socket cleaned and replaced
  • Corrosion: The first two 16bit ISA sockets have very small amounts of corrosion on them, hopefully they will clean rather than need entire replacement

On the positive side:

  • Has Am386DX-40 soldered
  • Has 387 FPU PGA socket
  • Has 128KB of 20ns cache SRAM chips fitted (4x32KB), but supports up to 256KB
  • No corrosion to Keyboard controller socket or IC
  • No corrosion to BIOS socket or ROM

A summary of the motherboard capabilities follows:

Item
Form Factor Baby AT
Chipset Forex FRX46C421A
Dimensions 330mm x 218mm
Maximum RAM 8x 30pin SIMM; maximum of 32MB
Cache 64, 128, 256KB
FPU Yes, 387DX
CPU Type 386DX, 486SX, 486DX-2, Cx486DLC
CPU Speeds 20, 25, 33, 40, 50, 66MHz
Expansion 6x 16bit, 1x 8bit

Motherboard data is available at Ultimate Hardware 2019:


The FRX46C421 memory controller as fitted to this board supports the provision of UMB memory via The Last Byte memory manager. As noted in the file chipset.doc:

Chipset / Available UMB Regions / Address / Region Size
FRX46C421 256k C0000-FFFFF 6x32k+1x64k

These UMB regions can then be used to load drivers and TSR's high, using the highdvr and hightsr utility included with The Last Byte memory manager similar to the MS-DOS commands devicehigh and loadhigh.

BIOS

BIOS from my motherboard:

Before removal:

Keyboard port and battery header removed:

Damaged traces cleaned with fibreglass pencil, neautralised with white vinegar and then thoroughly cleaned with isopropyl alchohol:

Fingers crossed that there isn't any more damage - there doesn't appear to be, so this looks like it has been caught in time. The battery header uses a diode as standard (part D4, just to the right of the header solder pads), so no chance of a battery pack getting charged and going bang. A standard 4-pin (+, N/C, N/C, Gnd) external pack will work fine.

Unfortunately a trace under the 74LS chip was damaged on removal of that chip - on removal of the ISA socket it looks to connect pin 3 of the 74LS245N with pin 2 of the ISA sockets either side of it. This will need to be repaired with a short section of kynar wire to bridge those three pins:

New 74LS245N DIP socket and 16bit ISA socket in position:

74LS245N pin3 and ISA socket pin2 link wire in place:

Scrubbed with white vinegar on a toothbrush, then thoroughly cleaned with isopropyl alchohol:

I'm pleased with these - other than the one with the missing pin, they've all come up really rather nice; hopefully just the one will need replacing now.

Sadly, initial testing after reassembling the board after replacing the obvious components results in no video and no error code beeps. Processor and other chips were cold and didn't heat up, indicating no clock signal.

First thing was to check all of the jumpers on the board, and many of them had been either removed or set to something other than what they were supposed to be for a 386DX-40. With those set correctly, and the programmable clock generator set to 40MHz the processor and other supporting chips now get warm, but still no output on screen or via the speaker.

Next test is probably check with a POST diagnostic card and perhaps check some other clock signals.

[Update - 12/03/2021] POST diagnostic card arrived.

After initially having to repair two broken LED's on the new diagnostic card, I eventually got it working and up and running in the Forex board. It confirmed that all voltages were present, and that the system reset behaviour was working, but no error codes are present:

Not sure how to proceed from here…..

Note: The image above shows a variant of the Forex motherboard with a proprietary 32bit slot in place of the lowest 16bit ISA slot. Other than that difference, the jumpers and configuration seems to be identical.

Configuration 0

  • AMD Am386DX-40
  • Cyrix cx87DLC-40 FPU
  • 128KB Cache
  • Default wait states, memory and cache timings
  • 4x 4MB 60ns SIMM
  • VGA 1 - Trident 9000B 512K VGA
  • VGA 2 - Tseng Labs ET4000AX 1MB VGA
  • VGA 3 - Cirrus Logic CL-GD5428 1MB VGA

This is a baseline configuration with all BIOS options configured as defaults.


Configuration 1

  • AMD Am386DX-40
  • Cyrix cx87DLC-40 FPU
  • 128KB Cache
  • Optimised wait states, memory and cache timings
  • 4x 4MB 60ns SIMM
  • VGA 1 - Trident 9000B 512K VGA
  • VGA 2 - Tseng Labs ET4000AX 1MB VGA
  • VGA 3 - Cirrus Logic CL-GD5428 1MB VGA

Configuration 2

  • AMD Am386DX-40
  • Cyrix cx87DLC-40 FPU
  • 256KB Cache
  • Optimised wait states, memory and cache timings
  • 4x 4MB 60ns SIMM
  • VGA 1 - Trident 9000B 512K VGA
  • VGA 2 - Tseng Labs ET4000AX 1MB VGA
  • VGA 3 - Cirrus Logic CL-GD5428 1MB VGA

As configuration 1, but with motherboard cache increased to 256KB.

Test Config 0 Config 1 Config 2
Processor Speed 40 MHz 40 MHz 40MHz
Wait states 1 0 0
Norton Sysinfo CPU
Norton Sysinfo HDD
Norton Sysinfo Overall
CheckIt Dhrystones
CheckIt Whetstones
CheckIt Video chars/sec VGA 1
CheckIt Video chars/sec VGA 2
CheckIt Video chars/sec VGA 3
CheckIt HDD Transfer
Landmark CPU
Landmark FPU
Landmark Video VGA 1
Landmark Video VGA 2
Landmark Video VGA 3
3DBench VGA 1
3DBench VGA 2
3DBench VGA 3
ATPerf RAM Read
ATPerf RAM Write
ATPerf ROM Read
ATPerf Video Write VGA 1
ATPerf Video Write VGA 2
ATPerf Video Write VGA 3
CompTest RAM thruput
CompTest Effective WS
CompTest MFLOPS
CompTest Video BIOS VGA 1
CompTest Video BIOS VGA 2
CompTest Video BIOS VGA 3
CompTest Video Direct VGA 1
CompTest Video Direct VGA 2
CompTest Video Direct VGA 3
CompTest Dhrystones

Games Results

In addition, the following game benchmark results were recorded:

Test Config 0 Config 1 Config 2
Wolfenstein 3D (FPS)
F1GP Bench 1 (CPU %)

Software Versions

  • Norton Sysinfo 8.0
  • CheckIt 2.1
  • Landmark 6.00
  • 3DBench 1.0
  • ATPerf 2.00
  • Comptest 260

Notes

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  • Last modified: 2021/04/20 09:16
  • by john