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blog:msx_padial_kb [2020/07/07 16:04] – [IBM RT3100 Spanish layout] johnblog:msx_padial_kb [2022/01/20 12:11] (current) john
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 There's too many differences in key layout for this to be a practical option - you'd either have to redraw lots of key caps, or remove the offending 'system freeze' keys for it to be worthwhile, and since this is a shared keyboard with other systems, I can't really do that. There's too many differences in key layout for this to be a practical option - you'd either have to redraw lots of key caps, or remove the offending 'system freeze' keys for it to be worthwhile, and since this is a shared keyboard with other systems, I can't really do that.
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 +Result? Not workable either; too many missing keys (e.g. a working backslash).
  
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-Using the Japanese keyboard layout is even worse than the the UK layout as the shift keys do not work as expected (variation of caps effects and symbol-shift type effects). There are also still variations in characters produced (for example, the //Yen// or //bar|pipe// key doesn't work). Again, it would work to a certain extent with rewritten keycaps, but since the current keycaps are fine for the NEC PC-98, that's not an option. This option is a dead horse.+Using the Japanese keyboard layout is even worse than the the UK layout as the shift keys do not work as expected (variation of caps effects and symbol-shift type effects). There are also still variations in characters produced (for example, the //Yen// or //bar|pipe// key doesn't work). Again, it would work to a certain extent with rewritten keycaps, but since the current keycaps are fine for the NEC PC-98, that's not an option.  
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 +Result? This one isn't usable either, so I'll keep it purely for the PC-9821.
  
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 It turns out that most people who are using the RT9443 keyboard have it in US layout. Rather than buy another keyboard and find I'm the first to try it (and it not work - since at a minimum the backslash key is in a different location!), I'm skipping the UK model and going straight to the US layout It turns out that most people who are using the RT9443 keyboard have it in US layout. Rather than buy another keyboard and find I'm the first to try it (and it not work - since at a minimum the backslash key is in a different location!), I'm skipping the UK model and going straight to the US layout
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 +**[Update January 20th, 2022]** - Finally got my hands on a cheap UK layout of the above keyboard... result:
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 +{{:blog:ukrt9443_msx_kb.png?600|}}
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 +The backslash key *again does not work*.
  
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-As above, a reccomended keyboard from the [[https://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/hardware/finding-a-working-keyboard-for-lp-ps2-interface|MSX.org forum]]:+As above, a reccomended keyboard from the [[https://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/hardware/finding-a-working-keyboard-for-lp-ps2-interface|MSX.org forum]], the recommendation being:
  
 > This one (Microsoft RT9443) works flawless. It even passes the infamous Gradius test (flying to the left top of the screen while still being able to shoot). > This one (Microsoft RT9443) works flawless. It even passes the infamous Gradius test (flying to the left top of the screen while still being able to shoot).
  
-There'even a video of the very keyboard in action:+This keyboard is in US layout, as used by most others. 
 +There's a video of the RT9443 keyboard in action with the keyboard interface here:
  
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-This keyboard is in US layout, as used by most others. Still awaiting its arrival (June 25th, 2020).+   * **Update: June 25th, 2020** - Found a cheap RT9443 on Ebay.com (shipping around ten times the price of the keyboard!). 
 +   * **Update: July 7th, 2020** - Keyboard arrived 
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 +Result: //It doesn't work//. Same issues as the previous keyboards - no backslash/Yen key, missing bracket keys etc. This is getting ridiculous!!! 
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 +===== Dell RT7D20 UK layout ===== 
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 +**[Update January 2022]** - Tried this UK layout PS/2 keyboard which was new-in-box. 
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 +{{:blog:dellps2uk.jpg?600|}}
  
-**UpdateJuly 7th2020** - keyboard arrived+Resultsimilar to previous keyboards; no combination of keys can produce a backslash or Yen symbol. Other than thatit's a decent membrane PS/2 keyboard.
  
-//And it doesn't work//. Same issues as the previous keyboards - no backslash/Yen key, missing bracket keys etc. This is getting ridiculous!!! 
 ====== Conclusion ====== ====== Conclusion ======
  
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