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blog:x68_pro_fault [2020/08/07 09:31] – [Okay, lets replace ALL capacitors] john | blog:x68_pro_fault [2021/02/24 14:03] (current) – [The Final Curtain] john | ||
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- | === Capacitor List === | ||
- | Following the visual check, I made a list of all the (electrolytic) capacitors on the boards: | ||
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- | ^ Number ^ Board ^ Capacitance ^ Voltage ^ Temperature Rating ^ Notes ^ | ||
- | | C1 | Main |0.47uf |50v |85c | | | ||
- | | C5 | Main |220uf |6.3v |85c | | | ||
- | | C12 | Main |330uf |6.3v |85c | | | ||
- | | C13 | Main |100uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C15 | Main |330uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C16 | Main |470uf |6.3v |85c | | | ||
- | | C38 | Main |4.7uf |50v |85c | | | ||
- | | C39 | Main |4.7uf |50v |85c | | | ||
- | | C40 | Main |470uf |10v |85c | | | ||
- | | C41 | Main |470uf |10v |85c | | | ||
- | | C43 | Main |470uf |10v |85c | | | ||
- | | C44 | Main |3300uf |6.3v |85c |Large cap near rear IO panel| | ||
- | | C47 | Main |4.7uf |50v |85c | | | ||
- | | C48 | Main |4.7uf |50v |85c | | | ||
- | | C49 | Main |4.7uf |50v |85c | | | ||
- | | C50 | Main |100uf |10v |85c | | | ||
- | | C56 | Main |33uf |10v |85c | | | ||
- | | C201 | Sub | ||
- | | C202 | Sub | ||
- | | C203 | Sub | ||
- | | C204 | Sub | ||
- | | C205 | Sub |47uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C207 | Sub |10uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C210 | Sub |47uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C211 | Sub | ||
- | | C213 | Sub | ||
- | | C214 | Sub |47uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C215 | Sub |47uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C218 | Sub | ||
- | | C220 | Sub | ||
- | | C221 | Sub | ||
- | | C222 | Sub |47uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C223 | Sub | ||
- | | C224 | Sub | ||
- | | C225 | Sub | ||
- | | C226 | Sub | ||
- | | c227 | Sub | ||
- | | C231 | Sub | ||
- | | C232 | Sub |1uf |50v |85c | | | ||
- | | C233 | Sub | ||
- | | C234 | Sub | ||
- | | C238 | Sub | ||
- | | C239 | Sub | ||
- | | C240 | Sub | ||
- | | C241 | Sub | ||
- | | C242 | Sub | ||
- | | C243 | Sub | ||
- | | C244 | Sub | ||
- | | C249 | Sub |1uf |50v |85c | | | ||
- | | C251 | Sub |22uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C255 | Sub | ||
- | | C256 | Sub |47uf |16v |85c | | | ||
- | | C262 | Sub | ||
- | | R221 | Sub |47uf |16v |85c | Cant make the number out, but its next to R221.| | ||
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- | Yes, that's right; there are more than **50** electrolytic capacitors on the motherboard. | ||
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- | Quantities: | ||
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- | * **6x** 0.47uF, 50v | ||
- | * **9x** 4.7uF, 50v | ||
- | * **2x** 1uF, 50v | ||
- | * **1x** 10uF, 16v | ||
- | * **1x** 22uF, 16v | ||
- | * **1x** 33uF, 10v | ||
- | * **7x** 47uF, 16v | ||
- | * **3x** 100uF, 6.3v | ||
- | * **4x** 100uF, 10v | ||
- | * **5x** 100uF, 16v | ||
- | * **1x** 220uF, 6.3v | ||
- | * **5x** 330uF, 6.3v | ||
- | * **3x** 330uF, 16v | ||
- | * **1x** 470uF, 6.3v | ||
- | * **3x** 470uF, 10v | ||
- | * **1x** 3300uF, 6.3v | ||
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=== Next Steps === | === Next Steps === | ||
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**[Update - August 3rd 2020]** - Since there seems to be ongoing issues with the system, the only thing that makes sense to do at this point is to replace **all** capacitors. | **[Update - August 3rd 2020]** - Since there seems to be ongoing issues with the system, the only thing that makes sense to do at this point is to replace **all** capacitors. | ||
- | For the full list of caps on the main board, refer to the [[blog:x68_pro_fault# | + | For the full list of caps on the main board, refer to the my [[blog:x68000_pro_cap_list|X68000 Pro]] capacitor list page. |
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* **2x** 22uF, 25v | * **2x** 22uF, 25v | ||
* **2x** 100uF, 10v | * **2x** 100uF, 10v | ||
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+ | ===== Another Round of Testing ===== | ||
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+ | === Audio Circuit Repair Test === | ||
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+ | Well the op-amp and amplifier IC replacement fixed the issue with no sound coming from the speaker unless you had your ear up against it: | ||
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+ | {{jPlayerPlaylist> | ||
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+ | It's still not the greatest in the world, but it's fine for a tiny little 0.5w case speaker. | ||
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+ | ---- | ||
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+ | === Keyboard === | ||
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+ | Keyboard is still inactive. | ||
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+ | ---- | ||
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+ | === Joystick Ports === | ||
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+ | Tried an MSX compatible pad in both port 1 and port 2, it doesn' | ||
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+ | ---- | ||
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+ | === Floppy Drives === | ||
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+ | Floppy drive 0 still works fine. Floppy drive 1 still spits the disk back out as soon as you've inserted it. | ||
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+ | ---- | ||
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+ | === Memory === | ||
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+ | The onboard 1MB, the additional 1MB from the IOData module and the extra memory on the XSIMM10ss card all test fine in memtest68k. | ||
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+ | ---- | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Booting Human68k DOS === | ||
+ | |||
+ | A Human68k dos boot disk still brings up the //"It was not possible to start the system, please reboot"// | ||
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+ | ---- | ||
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+ | ==== So What Now? ==== | ||
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+ | I'm out of ideas with the system now. I think there is quite likely some damage to one or more of the IC's on the boards, but where to start with that, I've no idea. I don't have a scope and I don't have an electronics background. | ||
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+ | **[Update September 2020]** - So I bought a ' | ||
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+ | The plan now is to remove as much of the obviously unaffected components from the new ' | ||
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+ | Stay tuned, I'll be posting more progress below. | ||
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+ | ====== The Final Curtain ====== | ||
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+ | **[Update 24/ | ||
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+ | After spending months more trying to get the system working I only just managed to get it booting a Human68k floppy - despite desoldering the last remaining surface mount chips from the IO sub board. Keyboard still didn't work, joystick still didn't work - making it completely unusable. | ||
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+ | Tracing signals and low level logic debugging is not what I want to get in to, so it's time to draw a line under all of this and move on. Perhaps someone more adept than myself could get this running again. But that's it for me; I need to move on. | ||
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+ | It's pretty sad to say that //were it not for the incorrect PSU wiring diagram//, this would have been an easy job and I'd have had months of fun playing with the system by now. |